{"id":6472,"date":"2025-03-10T16:16:20","date_gmt":"2025-03-10T16:16:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/?post_type=ova_audio&#038;p=6472"},"modified":"2025-04-02T19:36:04","modified_gmt":"2025-04-02T19:36:04","slug":"leadership-and-conversation-in-dialogue-funmi-olonisakin","status":"publish","type":"ova_audio","link":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/index.php\/audio\/leadership-and-conversation-in-dialogue-funmi-olonisakin\/","title":{"rendered":"Leadership and \u201cConversation\u201d in Dialogue: Securing Peace in the Unromantic Context"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"6472\" class=\"elementor elementor-6472\" data-elementor-post-type=\"ova_audio\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c2b1b05 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c2b1b05\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fbe8ce e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fbe8ce\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f87f335 animated-slow elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-podover_elementor_heading\" data-id=\"f87f335\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;ova-move-up&quot;,&quot;_animation_tablet&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;_animation_delay&quot;:100}\" data-widget_type=\"podover_elementor_heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ova-title\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"title\">Inaugural Lecture<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div> \n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-592f42d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"592f42d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bc1842d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bc1842d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-592f42d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent e-lazyloaded\" data-id=\"592f42d\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bc1842d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bc1842d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n<p><strong data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i38.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Host, Mounira Chaieb:<\/strong><br \/>&#8220;Welcome, listeners, to the ALC Pan African Radio\u2019s Public Debate Programme, where we engage experts and audiences in critical conversations on peace, security, and leadership in Africa. Today, we bring you a special episode featuring the inaugural lecture of <strong>Professor Funmi Olonisakin<\/strong>, a trailblazing scholar, peacebuilder, and founding director of the African Leadership Centre. Delivered at King\u2019s College London, her lecture, <em>\u2018Leadership and Conversation in Dialogue: Securing Peace in the Unromantic Context,\u2019 <\/em>challenges conventional approaches to peacebuilding and reimagines leadership in societies grappling with cycles of violence.<\/p>\n<p>Professor Olonisakin, a Nigerian-British academic and Vice President of King\u2019s College, has dedicated her career to understanding the interplay between leadership, conflict, and sustainable peace. Her work spans academia, policy, and grassroots activism, from co-founding the African Security Unit to shaping UN initiatives on children in armed conflict. In this lecture, she reflects on her journey\u2014from a childhood in a remote Nigerian village to the halls of global institutions\u2014while dissecting why 50% of UN peacebuilding efforts falter, trapped in cycles of relapse.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Key Themes:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\">\n<li>\n<p><strong>The \u2018Unromantic\u2019 Context: <\/strong>Olonisakin defines \u2018unromantic\u2019 societies as those marked by unpredictability, systemic insecurity, and unmet aspirations. These are spaces where daily survival is fraught, and peacebuilding cannot rely on idealized, Western-centric models. She contrasts this with \u2018romantic\u2019 contexts\u2014stable, resource-rich societies\u2014arguing that both exist on a spectrum, with pockets of overlap.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><strong>Leadership as Process, Not Traits: <\/strong>Challenging the myth of the \u2018charismatic leader,\u2019 she emphasizes <em>process-driven leadership <\/em>\u2014how influence flows between leaders and communities, and how mutuality and dialogue can anchor peace. Drawing on her UN experience in Sierra Leone, she critiques top-down interventions, highlighting the harm of patronizing power dynamics.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><strong>The Peacebuilding Dilemma: <\/strong>Olonisakin argues that liberal peacebuilding\u2019s focus on institutional \u2018fixes\u2019 often ignores local realities. Using Liberia and South Sudan as case studies, she illustrates how imported governance models collapse without organic buy-in. Her solution? Prioritize <em>conversations <\/em>\u2014amplifying marginalized voices and fostering trust in fluid, post-conflict societies.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><strong>Personal Reflections: <\/strong>The lecture intertwines academic rigor with raw humanity. Olonisakin recounts visceral moments: singing children in displacement camps, a mother\u2019s harrowing tale of war, and her own failures in UN-led initiatives. These stories underscore her call for reflexivity\u2014acknowledging privilege and power in peacebuilding.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>Why It Matters:<\/strong><br \/>This lecture isn\u2019t just theory\u2014it\u2019s a roadmap. Olonisakin\u2019s African Leadership Centre (ALC) embodies her vision, training over 300 fellows from 35 countries in leadership rooted in context, not dogma. Her work bridges academia and practice, demanding that peacebuilding centers dignity, equity, and local agency.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Closing Teaser:<\/strong><br \/>Stay tuned as we dive deeper into the Q&amp;A, where Olonisakin fields questions on institutionalising leadership in Africa, lessons from Botswana\u2019s democratic transition, and her advice to her 25-year-old self. This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about reimagining peace in Africa\u2019s complex realities.<\/p>\n<p>Download the full transcript of the audio recording <a href=\"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Prof.-Funmi-Inaugural-Lecture.pdf\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4f61653f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4f61653f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a1ef9d3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1a1ef9d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4f61653f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent e-lazyloaded\" data-id=\"4f61653f\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a1ef9d3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1a1ef9d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.39f2fd7f.0.i24.48eb5171QAkyax\"><em>Leadership and \u201cConversation\u201d in Dialogue: Securing Peace in the Unromantic Context<\/em><\/h3>\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Episode Outline:<\/h4>\n<p><strong>Continuity Announcer: <\/strong><strong>Mounira Chaieb and Anonymous\u00a0<\/strong><br \/><strong>Show: Discussion Programme<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Time: 42:52<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Date: 2020<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Citation:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nyawira, Ivy, Essa Njie and Ibrahim Machina (Guests). \u201cALC MSc Fellows Fellowship Journey during COVID-19.\u201d Hosted by Desmond Davies.\u00a0<em>The ALC Pan-African Radio. <\/em>December 2, 2020. Podcast, Mp3. 42:52. https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/index.php\/audio\/discussion-programme-msc-fellows-journey<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"458\"><strong data-start=\"396\" data-end=\"456\">1. Introduction &amp; Context of the Lecture (00:00 &#8211; 05:05)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"459\" data-end=\"667\">\n<li data-start=\"459\" data-end=\"507\">Opening remarks by the continuity announcer.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"508\" data-end=\"602\">Mounira Chaieb introduces the theme of peacebuilding and the limitations of liberal peace.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"603\" data-end=\"667\">Overview of Prof. Olonisakin\u2019s lecture and its significance.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-start=\"534\" data-end=\"602\"><strong data-start=\"538\" data-end=\"600\">2. Opening Remarks by Prof. Ed Byrne (05:05 &#8211; 10:10)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"603\" data-end=\"825\">\n<li>Prof. Byrne, Principal of King\u2019s College London, introduces Prof. Olonisakin.<\/li>\n<li>Highlights her paradoxical traits (e.g., &#8220;generous but frugal&#8221;), Nigerian upbringing, academic journey, and career milestones (e.g., UN work, founding the African Leadership Centre).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-start=\"978\" data-end=\"1053\"><strong data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"1051\">3. Personal &amp; Academic Journey: Shaping a Scholar (10:10 &#8211; 18:30)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"1054\" data-end=\"1286\">\n<li>Prof. Olonisakin thanks attendees, including dignitaries from Nigeria, Kenya, and global institutions.<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i42.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Reflects on her historic role as the first Black African woman to deliver an inaugural lecture at King\u2019s.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1054\" data-end=\"1110\">Prof. Olonisakin\u2019s early life in Nigeria and the UK.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1111\" data-end=\"1176\">Education at the University of Ife and King\u2019s College London.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1177\" data-end=\"1228\">Challenges in academia and professional growth.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1229\" data-end=\"1286\">Establishment of the African Leadership Centre (ALC).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-start=\"1139\" data-end=\"1205\">4. Concept of the \u201cUnromantic Context\u201d (18:30 &#8211; 26:00)<\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"1206\" data-end=\"1434\">\n<li>Explains &#8220;unromantic&#8221; societies: marked by unpredictability, systemic insecurity, and unmet aspirations.<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i43.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Contrasts with &#8220;romantic&#8221; contexts (stable, resource-rich societies) and critiques Western-centric peacebuilding models.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i45.3d4dc921wYeJHO\"><strong>5. Personal Journey &amp; Academic Roots (26:00 &#8211; 38:10)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"1505\" data-end=\"1767\">\n<li>Shares her upbringing in a Nigerian village, student activism, and academic struggles.<\/li>\n<li>Discusses her PhD research on Liberia\u2019s civil war and early career at King\u2019s College.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1622\" data-end=\"1675\">Reflections on Prof. Olonisakin\u2019s time at the UN.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1676\" data-end=\"1723\">Case studies from Sierra Leone and Liberia.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1724\" data-end=\"1782\">The problem of power asymmetries in global governance.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1783\" data-end=\"1848\">How leadership failures contribute to peacebuilding dilemmas.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-start=\"1774\" data-end=\"1853\">6. Youth, Women, and the Missing Voices in Peacebuilding (38:10 &#8211; 47:50)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"1933\" data-end=\"1989\">The absence of youth and women in leadership spaces.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1990\" data-end=\"2051\">Case studies of exclusion from decision-making processes.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"2052\" data-end=\"2127\">The role of non-state actors and grassroots movements in peacebuilding.<\/li>\n<li>Recounts her role in the UN\u2019s Office of the Special Representative for Children and Armed Conflict.<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i46.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Highlights failures, such as the abandoned rehabilitation centre in Sierra Leone, and critiques patronising power dynamics in aid work.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-start=\"2080\" data-end=\"2166\">7. Rethinking Leadership in Conflict Zones: <strong>Leadership as Process, Not Traits <\/strong>(47:50 &#8211; 57:40)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"2198\" data-end=\"2266\">Misconceptions about leadership effectiveness in fragile states.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"2267\" data-end=\"2324\">The failure of institutional models in peacebuilding.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"2325\" data-end=\"2401\">Why personal relationships and trust matter more than formal structures.<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i49.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Argues against &#8220;leader-centric&#8221; models, emphasising <strong>process-driven leadership <\/strong>(mutuality, dialogue, and context).<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i50.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Introduces her framework for analysing leadership in fluid, conflict-affected societies.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-start=\"2413\" data-end=\"2483\">8. Founding of the African Leadership Centre (57:40 &#8211; 1:07:30)<\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"2484\" data-end=\"2666\">\n<li data-start=\"2504\" data-end=\"2585\">The vision behind ALC as a space for intellectual and leadership development.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"2586\" data-end=\"2648\">Leadership training as a tool for transforming governance.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2712\">The impact of ALC on African policy and leadership studies.<\/li>\n<li>Details the ALC\u2019s mission: training over 300 fellows from 35 countries in context-driven leadership.<\/li>\n<li>Stresses the need for organic, grassroots-driven peacebuilding over imported institutional fixes.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i51.3d4dc921wYeJHO\"><strong>9. Q&amp;A Highlights <\/strong>(1:07:30 &#8211; 1:18:20)<\/h3>\n<ul data-start=\"2745\" data-end=\"3048\">\n<li>Institutionalizing leadership in Africa (response: invest in universities teaching societal leadership).<\/li>\n<li>Lessons from Botswana\u2019s democratic transition.<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i52.3d4dc921wYeJHO\">Advice to her 25-year-old self: &#8220;Be more reflexive.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i53.3d4dc921wYeJHO\"><strong>10. 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This notwithstanding, the African women\u2019s movement has been and continues to be a formidable force in the story of the continent\u2019s transformation. Women\u2019s rights and feminist activists have made momentous contributions to the development of the continent with respect to gender equality in the public policy arena, governance, education, peace, and security at local, national, regional, and continental levels. They have also been at the forefront of bringing to light gendered violence and harm to the bodily integrity of women. Many of these efforts, narratives, and experiences, however, remain undocumented, yet their transformative activism and leadership could otherwise serve as evidence-based case studies in advancing women\u2019s rights, freedom, and growth in Africa.<\/p>\n<p>The main objective of this project, therefore, is to provide a platform for Leading feminists from across the African continent to reflect on and share their leadership journey or involvement in the process of change or response to a situation that led to change within the African women\u2019s rights and feminist activist space. These individual narrations will offer a perspective on a situation and experience that will likely have included the participation of many others. 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