{"id":6214,"date":"2025-03-30T09:44:55","date_gmt":"2025-03-30T09:44:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/?post_type=ova_audio&#038;p=6214"},"modified":"2025-03-30T09:44:56","modified_gmt":"2025-03-30T09:44:56","slug":"discussion-programme-marceline-abdulazeez","status":"publish","type":"ova_audio","link":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/index.php\/audio\/discussion-programme-marceline-abdulazeez\/","title":{"rendered":"ALC Fellows Interview with Marceline Odhiambo and Kaltumi Abdulazeez"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"6214\" class=\"elementor elementor-6214\" data-elementor-post-type=\"ova_audio\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c2b1b05 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c2b1b05\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fbe8ce e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fbe8ce\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f87f335 animated-slow elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-podover_elementor_heading\" data-id=\"f87f335\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;ova-move-up&quot;,&quot;_animation_tablet&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;_animation_delay&quot;:100}\" data-widget_type=\"podover_elementor_heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ova-title\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"title\">Discussion Programme<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div> \n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-31b3528 elementor-align-left elementor-tablet-align-left elementor-widget-tablet__width-inherit animated-slow elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"31b3528\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;ova-move-up&quot;,&quot;_animation_tablet&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;_animation_delay&quot;:300}\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/donate-us\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-book-reader\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M352 96c0-53.02-42.98-96-96-96s-96 42.98-96 96 42.98 96 96 96 96-42.98 96-96zM233.59 241.1c-59.33-36.32-155.43-46.3-203.79-49.05C13.55 191.13 0 203.51 0 219.14v222.8c0 14.33 11.59 26.28 26.49 27.05 43.66 2.29 131.99 10.68 193.04 41.43 9.37 4.72 20.48-1.71 20.48-11.87V252.56c-.01-4.67-2.32-8.95-6.42-11.46zm248.61-49.05c-48.35 2.74-144.46 12.73-203.78 49.05-4.1 2.51-6.41 6.96-6.41 11.63v245.79c0 10.19 11.14 16.63 20.54 11.9 61.04-30.72 149.32-39.11 192.97-41.4 14.9-.78 26.49-12.73 26.49-27.06V219.14c-.01-15.63-13.56-28.01-29.81-27.09z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Read more<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-592f42d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"592f42d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bc1842d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bc1842d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-592f42d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent e-lazyloaded\" data-id=\"592f42d\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bc1842d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bc1842d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n<p>Hello and welcome to <em data-start=\"93\" data-end=\"119\">The Discussion Programme<\/em> on ALC Pan-African Radio! I\u2019m your host, <strong data-start=\"161\" data-end=\"179\">Desmond Davies<\/strong>, and in this episode, we delve into a crucial conversation that resonates across Africa\u2014the role of women in leadership, peacebuilding, and politics.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"323\" data-end=\"943\">Joining me are two phenomenal young leaders, both <strong data-start=\"373\" data-end=\"393\">2024 ALC Fellows<\/strong>:<br data-start=\"394\" data-end=\"397\" \/><strong>Marceline O<\/strong><strong>dhiambo<\/strong> from Kenya, founder of <em data-start=\"445\" data-end=\"476\">Grassroots Women and Politics<\/em>, an organisation focused on empowering widows, especially those living with HIV or disabilities, through political awareness, financial literacy, and peacebuilding.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"945\" data-end=\"1287\"><strong>Kaltumi Abdulaz<\/strong><strong>eez<\/strong> from Nigeria, founder of <em data-start=\"694\" data-end=\"752\">Ladies Empowerment Goals and Support Initiative (LEGASI)<\/em>, a movement advocating for women&#8217;s leadership and participation in decision-making, inspired by the principles of the <strong data-start=\"871\" data-end=\"910\">UN Security Council Resolution 1325<\/strong> on Women, Peace, and Security.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"945\" data-end=\"1287\">Now, listeners, let\u2019s set the stage. Africa has a <strong data-start=\"995\" data-end=\"1037\">long history of powerful women leaders<\/strong>, from Queen Amina of Zaria to anti-colonial heroines like Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti. Yet, today, women continue to face immense barriers\u2014cultural norms, political exclusion, and even violence\u2014when they try to claim their rightful space in leadership.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1289\" data-end=\"1649\">Marceline and Kaltumi share personal stories of resistance, the societal pushback they\u2019ve endured, and the unwavering determination that fuels their work. From the <strong data-start=\"1453\" data-end=\"1480\">rural villages of Kenya<\/strong> to the <strong data-start=\"1488\" data-end=\"1532\">conservative regions of northern Nigeria<\/strong>, these two women are breaking barriers and proving that gender equality isn\u2019t just an aspiration\u2014it\u2019s a necessity.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1651\" data-end=\"1930\">But here\u2019s the big question: <em data-start=\"1680\" data-end=\"1712\">How do we shift the narrative?<\/em> Why do young people\u2014especially women\u2014continue to be sidelined despite Africa\u2019s commitment to <strong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1821\">Agenda 2063<\/strong>, which envisions a progressive and inclusive future? Is the system designed to keep youth out of politics?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1932\" data-end=\"2231\">As we explore these pressing issues, Marceline and Kaltumi offer bold solutions, calling for <strong data-start=\"2025\" data-end=\"2104\">stronger networks, financial support, and better representation in politics<\/strong>. Their dream? A new generation of African leaders who are <strong data-start=\"2163\" data-end=\"2228\">empowered, educated, and unafraid to challenge the status quo<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1932\" data-end=\"2231\">Stay with us because this conversation is just getting started.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1932\" data-end=\"2231\"><em data-start=\"2307\" data-end=\"2440\" data-is-last-node=\"\">You\u2019re tuned into ALC Pan-African Radio. Let\u2019s disrupt, challenge, and<\/em><em>, most importantly, build a better Africa together!<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4f61653f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4f61653f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a1ef9d3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1a1ef9d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4f61653f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent e-lazyloaded\" data-id=\"4f61653f\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a1ef9d3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1a1ef9d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Episode Outline:<\/h4>\n<p data-start=\"146\" data-end=\"262\"><strong>Host:<\/strong> Desmond Davies<br data-start=\"96\" data-end=\"99\" \/><strong>Guests:<\/strong> Marceline Ogiambo (Kenya) &amp; Kaltumi Abdulaziz (Nigeria), 2024 ALC Fellows<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"146\" data-end=\"262\"><strong>Episode Duration:<\/strong> 48:54 minutes<br data-start=\"204\" data-end=\"207\" \/><strong data-start=\"207\" data-end=\"260\">Show: Discussion Programme<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"1436\" data-end=\"1439\" \/>\n<p><strong>1. Introduction &amp; Guest Introductions (00:00:26 \u2013 00:02:06)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Host Desmond Davies introduces the show and guests: Marceline Odhiambo (Kenya) and Kaltumi Abdulazeez (Nigeria).<\/li>\n<li>Overview of their organizations: Grassroots Women and Politics (Marceline) and LEGASI (Kaltumi).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>2. Societal Barriers to Women\u2019s Leadership (00:03:00 \u2013 00:06:25)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Marceline discusses gender roles and exclusion from decision-making spaces (e.g., <em>barazas <\/em>, churches).<\/li>\n<li>Kaltumi highlights systemic discrimination, citing examples like Natasha\u2019s attacks in Nigeria and global underrepresentation.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>3. Historical Erasure of Women\u2019s Contributions (00:20:03 \u2013 00:24:14)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kaltumi references Queen Amina of Zaria and Marceline notes erased roles of women in Kenya\u2019s Mau Mau uprising.<\/li>\n<li>Critique of patriarchal narratives weaponising culture\/religion to sideline women.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>4. Financial Hurdles for Grassroots Organisations (00:27:33 \u2013 00:33:11)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Marceline shares reliance on personal savings and sporadic grants.<\/li>\n<li>Kaltumi critiques global funding biases favouring established NGOs over grassroots initiatives.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>5. Political Participation &amp; Youth Engagement (00:33:21 \u2013 00:38:23)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Challenges for youth in politics: financial barriers, exploitation by leaders.<\/li>\n<li>Marceline emphasises intergenerational solidarity and radical space-taking.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>6. Violence Against Women in Leadership (00:09:00 \u2013 00:10:53)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kaltumi discusses physical\/online violence against women in politics (e.g., menstrual cycle stigma, attacks on activists).<\/li>\n<li>Marceline shares personal experiences of cyberbullying.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>7. Rural vs. Urban Women\u2019s Experiences (00:13:05 \u2013 00:15:24)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kaltumi argues rural women\u2019s activism is underreported.<\/li>\n<li>Marceline notes internalised patriarchy and confidence gaps among women.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>8. Intergenerational Solidarity &amp; Mentorship (<\/strong><strong>00:35:49 \u2013 00:44:50)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Call for youth networks and mentorship to challenge the status quo.<\/li>\n<li>Kaltumi stresses the need for platforms to amplify marginalised voices.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>9. Media\u2019s Role in Shifting Narratives (00:45:00 \u2013 00:46:40)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Desmond highlights weak communication by African leaders; Marceline and Kaltumi agree on the media\u2019s power to document grassroots stories.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>10. Closing Remarks &amp; Future Aspirations (00:46:43 \u2013 00:48:43)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Marceline and Kaltumi reaffirm their commitment to leadership (e.g., Kaltumi\u2019s presidential aspirations).<\/li>\n<li data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i40.3d4dc921INTvb5\">Desmond closes with gratitude and a call to action for equity.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Download<\/strong> the full transcript <a href=\"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Discussion-Programme-ALC-2024-Fellows.pdf\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Globally and not least on the African continent, women continue to face numerous obstacles from continued marginalization and discrimination in the workplace, absence from leadership and decision making and lagging behind in terms of economic and other social indicators. 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