{"id":5778,"date":"2024-10-12T03:56:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-12T03:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/?post_type=ova_audio&#038;p=5778"},"modified":"2025-11-19T09:27:47","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T09:27:47","slug":"leading-feminists-voices-episode-2-coumba-toure","status":"publish","type":"ova_audio","link":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/index.php\/audio\/leading-feminists-voices-episode-2-coumba-toure\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Stella Mystica Sabiiti"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"5778\" class=\"elementor elementor-5778\" data-elementor-post-type=\"ova_audio\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20e6a46 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"20e6a46\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab20581 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ab20581\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Welcome to an episode of the ALC Radio, where we expore inspiring stories and journeys of remarkable individuals shaping Africa&#8217;s narrative. I&#8217;m your host, Mounira Chaieb.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"131\" data-end=\"628\">In this episode, we delve into Stella Sabiti\u2019s remarkable journey\u2014a story shaped by resilience, compassion, and an unwavering commitment to peace. Forced to live as a refugee across three continents, Stella later found herself working alongside the very soldiers who had tortured her as a student in the 1970s. What she witnessed was a profound transformation in their behaviour, revealing to her the complex humanity behind violence and the possibility of change even in the most unlikely places.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"630\" data-end=\"920\">In the second part of the <em data-start=\"670\" data-end=\"695\">Leading Feminist Voices<\/em> project, we speak to Stella Sabiti, a Ugandan peace and security practitioner and policymaker whose life embodies the power of forgiveness and constructive dialogue.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"922\" data-end=\"1388\">Stella recalls how soldiers attacked her residence at Makerere University in 1976, targeting her and fellow students during a period of turmoil in Uganda\u2019s history. Yet instead of responding with hatred or anger, she chose compassion\u2014seeing the soldiers not only as perpetrators but as victims of the very systems that shaped them. This perspective would later influence her groundbreaking work in conflict resolution, mediation, and peacebuilding across the region.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1390\" data-end=\"1725\">Her experiences challenge conventional narratives of power and victimhood, reminding us that healing and transformation often begin with empathy. Stella\u2019s story invites us to rethink what leadership means in contexts of violence: that sometimes, the most radical act is to refuse dehumanisation, even when faced with unimaginable harm.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1390\" data-end=\"1725\">Join us as we explore how Stella Sabiti\u2019s lived experiences\u2014from exile to policymaking\u2014inform her approach to peace and security. This episode deepens our understanding of the <em data-start=\"1903\" data-end=\"1938\">Leading Feminist Voices in Africa<\/em> series, a project dedicated to documenting and celebrating the women who are redefining leadership on the continent. Stay tuned for Stella\u2019s powerful reflections on courage, compassion, and the work of building peace.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7c14779a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"7c14779a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-75d09809 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"75d09809\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Stella Sabiti: The Power of Inner Strength in Leadership and Peacebuilding<\/em><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"font-size: 32px;\">Episode Outline:<\/h4>\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong> Stella Mystica Sabiti<br \/><strong data-start=\"180\" data-end=\"204\">Host: <\/strong>Mounira Chaieb<\/p>\n<p><strong>Producer:<\/strong> Njoki Ngunyi<\/p>\n<p><strong data-start=\"207\" data-end=\"260\">Show: <\/strong>ALC Radio \u2013 Leading Feminist Voices Project<br \/><strong>Citation: <\/strong>Sabiti, Stella Mytica (Guest). \u201cStella Sabiti: The Power of Inner Strength in Leadership and Peacebuilding.&#8221; Hosted by Mounira Chaieb. <em>The ALC Pan-African Radio. <\/em>October 12, 2024. Podcast, Mp3. 42:52.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3><strong>1. Introduction to Stella Sabiti (00:00:07 \u2013 00:00:26)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Mounira Chaieb introduces the guest and highlights her unique journey from being a refugee to working with soldiers who once tortured her.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"399\" data-end=\"486\">Overview of the <em data-start=\"417\" data-end=\"442\">Leading Feminist Voices<\/em> project by the African Leadership Centre.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>2. The 1976 Makerere University Attack (00:00:37 \u2013 00:02:08)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Stella recounts the violent attack by soldiers on her residence during a turbulent time in Uganda\u2019s history.<\/li>\n<li>Describes the fear, confusion, and brutality she faced as she was dragged out of her room and accused of leading an uprising.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>3. A Moment of Transformation: Confronting the Soldiers (00:02:08 \u2013 00:06:26)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Stella reflects on the moment she realised the soldiers were victims too, seeing sadness and tears in their eyes.<\/li>\n<li>Explains how this insight gave her the courage to connect with them despite the danger.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>4. Breaking Through Violence with Humanity (00:06:26 \u2013 00:08:27)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Stella shares how she asked the soldiers, \u201cWhat did your wife cook for you last night?\u201d\u2014a simple yet profound question that shifted the dynamic.<\/li>\n<li>Details how persistence and empathy eventually led to a breakthrough, transforming hostility into laughter under a tree.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>5. The Understanding Inner Power and Ubuntu (00:08:27 \u2013 00:12:44)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Stella discusses the concept of &#8220;inner power,&#8221; which she believes everyone possesses but doesn\u2019t always practice.<\/li>\n<li>Connects this idea to Ubuntu, emphasising the interconnectedness of humanity and the ability to see oneself in others.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>6. Lessons from Social Psychology and Media <\/strong><strong style=\"font-size: 16px;\">(<\/strong><strong style=\"font-size: 16px;\">00:12:44 <\/strong><strong style=\"font-size: 16px;\">\u2013 <\/strong><strong style=\"font-size: 16px;\">00:15:04)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Stella talks about her studies in social psychology and her passion for communication, which helped her understand human behaviour.<\/li>\n<li>Highlights the importance of media in peacebuilding, citing examples like Radio Uganda and her work in Europe.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>7. The Role of Media in Peacebuilding (00:15:04 \u2013 00:19:28)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"1789\" data-end=\"1865\">Stella\u2019s background in broadcasting and its influence on her peace work.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1869\" data-end=\"1952\">How media can shape public perception and either fuel conflict or foster peace.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>8. Working with Women in Conflict Zones (00:19:28 \u2013 00:22:34)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"2025\" data-end=\"2113\">Stories from Liberia, Colombia, Ecuador, Yugoslavia, and other war-affected regions.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"2117\" data-end=\"2182\">How women mobilise for peace despite immense personal losses.<\/li>\n<li>Discusses how these interactions enriched her understanding of collective leadership and resilience.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>9. Collective Leadership and Shared Vision (00:22:34 \u2013 00:24:03)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Stella emphasises that leadership is not individualistic but collective, requiring shared skills, vision, and collaboration.<\/li>\n<li>Reflects on being naturally thrust into leadership roles throughout her life, even when reluctant.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>10. 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