{"id":3526,"date":"2024-10-17T01:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-17T01:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/?post_type=ova_audio&#038;p=3526"},"modified":"2025-03-11T02:56:07","modified_gmt":"2025-03-11T02:56:07","slug":"leading-feminists-voices-episode-1-coumba-toure","status":"publish","type":"ova_audio","link":"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/index.php\/audio\/leading-feminists-voices-episode-1-coumba-toure\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Coumba Toure"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"3526\" class=\"elementor elementor-3526\" data-elementor-post-type=\"ova_audio\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20e6a46 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"20e6a46\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab20581 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ab20581\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Welcome to an episode of the ALC Radio, where we expore inspiring stories and journeys of remarkable individuals shaping Africa&#8217;s narrative. I&#8217;m your host, Mounira Chaieb, and today we have an extraordinary tale of resilience, creativity, and leadership from Coumba Toure, a writer and storyteller born and raised in both Mali and Senegal.<\/p>\n<p>In this episode, we explore Coumba\u2019s unique perspective on unveiling invisible giants\u2014those unsung heroes within our communities who drive positive social change without much recognition. These women, often overlooked in traditional leadership roles, have profoundly impacted Coumba\u2019s journey, teaching her that true leadership stems from love and community support. She shares how the love she received from her family and community fueled her confidence and courage to challenge societal norms and pursue her passions.<\/p>\n<p>Coumba\u2019s story is one of early empowerment through creativity; she published her first book of poetry at just 12 years old, followed by another at 16. Her experiences highlight the importance of self-expression and agency, showing us that age is no barrier to making meaningful contributions.<\/p>\n<p>Her travels across continents, despite facing obstacles like being jailed en route to the 1995 Global Agenda Equality Conference in China, underscore her belief in the transformative power of travel and education. Each journey brought her face-to-face with racism, sexism, and the complexities of border politics, yet these challenges only strengthened her resolve.<\/p>\n<p data-spm-anchor-id=\"2b75ac3d.2ef5001f.0.i29.3d4dc921f7l47H\">Join us as we uncover how Coumba\u2019s encounters with &#8216;invisible giants&#8217; shaped her understanding of leadership and activism. This episode sets the stage for our series, &#8220;Leading Feminist Voices in Africa,&#8221; which aims to document and celebrate the pivotal roles African women play in driving change. Stay tuned for more insights from Coumba Toure\u2019s inspiring journey.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7c14779a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"7c14779a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-75d09809 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"75d09809\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column hide_column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Unveiling Invisible Giants: Coumba Toure\u2019s Leadership Journey<\/em><\/h3>\n<h4><strong>Episode Outline:<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p><strong>Guest: <\/strong>Coumba Toure<br \/><strong data-start=\"180\" data-end=\"204\">Host: <\/strong>Mounira Chaieb<br data-start=\"204\" data-end=\"207\" \/><strong data-start=\"207\" data-end=\"260\">Show: <\/strong>ALC Radio \u2013 Leading Feminist Voices Project<\/p>\n<h3><strong>1. Introduction to the Leading Feminists Project (<\/strong>00:00:06 \u2013 00:02:24)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Host Mounira Chaieb introduces the &#8220;Leading Feminist Voices in Africa&#8221; project by the Africa Leadership Center.<\/li>\n<li>Discusses the importance of documenting untold stories of African women leaders driving change.<\/li>\n<li>Introduces Coumba Toure as the first guest, highlighting her background as a writer and storyteller born and raised in Mali and Senegal.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>2. Unveiling Invisible Giants (<\/strong>00:02:24 \u2013 00:05:09)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba explains the concept of &#8220;invisible giants&#8221;\u2014women who drive positive social change but remain unrecognized in traditional leadership roles.<\/li>\n<li>Shares how these women inspired her own journey and shaped her understanding of leadership.<\/li>\n<li>Mentions specific names like Maria Jara and Aisha Imam, who influenced her through their work and mentorship.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>3. The Power of Love in Leadership (<\/strong>00:05:18 \u2013 00:06:20)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba reflects on the role of love from family and community in nurturing her confidence and courage.<\/li>\n<li>Explains how being loved empowered her to challenge societal norms and pursue meaningful work.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>4. Early Creativity: Publishing Poetry at 12 and 16 (<\/strong>00:06:20 \u2013 00:08:37)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba shares how she published her first book of poetry at age 12 and another at 16.<\/li>\n<li>Discusses how this early act of self-expression taught her agency and reinforced her belief that she didn\u2019t need to wait to make an impact.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>5. Restlessness Beyond School Walls (<\/strong>00:08:37 \u2013 00:10:25)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba talks about feeling unfulfilled by formal education and seeking alternative outlets for creativity and purpose.<\/li>\n<li>Describes her involvement in nonprofits, peer-to-peer education, and teaching English and math as ways to find meaning outside school.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>6. Travel as Education and Growth (<\/strong>00:10:25 \u2013 00:12:26)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba discusses her love for travel and how it became a form of education.<\/li>\n<li>Highlights her experiences travelling within West Africa and globally, learning languages, cultures, and histories while facing challenges like racism and sexism.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>7. A Fortune Teller\u2019s Prophecy (<\/strong>00:12:26 \u2013 00:16:02)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba recounts a fascinating story of a fortune teller using cowrie shells who predicted her travels to faraway places unknown to anyone around her.<\/li>\n<li>Reflects on how this prophecy came true when she travelled to China for the Global Agenda Equality Conference in 1995.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>8. Arrested En Route to China (<\/strong>00:16:02 \u2013 00:19:43)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba shares her harrowing experience of being jailed in Las Palmas due to a missing transit visa for France.<\/li>\n<li>Discusses how this encounter with systemic racism and sexism only strengthened her resolve to keep travelling and advocating for change.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>9. Reading and Traveling as Empowerment Tools (<\/strong>00:19:43 \u2013 00:26:24)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba emphasises the importance of reading and travelling as tools for empowerment, especially for women and girls.<\/li>\n<li>Critiques the barriers African women face in accessing education and global mobility, including visa restrictions and economic challenges.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>10. Leadership as Practice, Not Perfection (<\/strong>00:26:24-00:27:48)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Coumba reflects on her philosophy that leadership is about practicing one\u2019s beliefs daily rather than achieving perfection.<\/li>\n<li>Shares how she continues to learn, grow, and adapt her leadership style through new challenges and experiences.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><strong>Closing Remarks (<\/strong>00:27:48-End)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Mounira thanks Coumba for sharing her inspiring journey and teases upcoming episodes featuring other remarkable feminist voices.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"my-2\"><strong>Download<\/strong> the full transcript <a href=\"https:\/\/alcafricanradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Coumba-Toure-Interview-Leading-Feminists-Project.pdf\">here<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c5b3a17 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c5b3a17\" 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